John Fisher 2.0 on Apostolicae Curae and Anglican Orders

The Catholic Church has many formidable enemies.  Obviously in a place like Brazil, Evangelical born-agree Christianity is making headway.  In other parts of South America we see similar trends.  Then of course there is secularism which is very successfully at attacking both movements and having much success.  In places like the Middle East, Islam continues to chip away at dwindling populations in places like Syria and Iraq.  So we’re not short of enemies.  However, I wouldn’t consider Anglicanism to be an opponent in the slightest.  Even in the second half of the 16th century it wasn’t the Anglican Church persecuting the Catholics, it was the monarch.

In fact, the Anglican Church provides a service to the Catholic Church.  People like Michael Coren who choose to reject the Lord Jesus Christ and embrace sodomy find a home in the liberal elements of the Anglican Church.  The Anglican Church of Canada which Coren joined has a female bishop in his diocese.

The Catholic Church has always rejected Anglican orders and it made so abundantly clear in 1896 with the document Apostolicae Curae which was issued by Leo XIII which declared Anglican orders null and void.

Not long ago I met a young man in a discord server who goes by the moniker John Fisher 2.0.  He informed me about the work he has done on this subject.  John has also dialogued with an Anglican priest on Anglican orders.  We recorded an interview.

The video is up for all to see, but I just want to say that I was sufficiently impressed.  As a Church history specialist I know all of the stuff that happened involving Henry VIII and Edward VI.  At the time of Henry VIII there were two main brands of Protestantism floating around on the continent.  These were Lutheranism and Zwinglism.  Henry VIII didn’t care for either of their theologies but did enjoy the idea of separating from the Pope and controlling the affairs of the Church and getting the annulment he was seeking which was taking forever.

In 1539, Henry VIII while separated from Rome, publishes the Six Articles which articulate traditional Catholic theology.  Pretty much nothing was changed in terms of theology.  When Henry died, the monarchial attachment to Catholic theology did as well.  Edward VI allowed Cranmer to have full authority over the Church in England and replaced the priesthood with a priesthood in name only.  They were just pastors essentially.  John lays this out well in the interview.  It was also recorded in video but my software had problems so I only published the audio.  Enjoy!